Aug 072025
“They think that sports is better reality TV. I was like, it’s the same thing,” Obama said, referring to debates over content she has had with Robinson and her husband, former President Barack Obama.
She added, “If I listen to ESPN for an hour, it’s like watching the ‘Real Housewives of Atlanta.’ It’s the same drama, and they’re yelling at each other, and they don’t get along. Stephen A. Smith, he’s just like every other talk show.”
Obama went on to say she finds the “sociological drama” that reality television series and sports talk television both produce “fascinating,” regardless of the gender of the people on screen.
Sports is the toy department of human life.
Howard Cosell
Phil M. Stockmen
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